Talk:Honor March

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Testing

Used Klimaform for a first-pass look at haste values with +0 March.

  • At 850 skill, this song gives <=85/1024 Haste, 112 Attack, and 28 Acc.
  • At 886 skill, this song gives <=91/1024 Haste, 116 Attack, and 29 Acc.
  • At 900 skill, this song gives <=91/1024 Haste, 120 Attack, and 30 Acc.
  • At >980 skill, this song gives <=91/1024 Haste, 120 Attack, and 30 Acc.

Because BRDs get 900 skill almost accidentally in their duration gear, I'm not going to bother with the tiers below that. At 900 skill, I went out and tested Claw Cyclone using BRD/BLU. It would have a 17 second recast if Honor March gave 91/1024 Haste, but instead it was an 18 second recast indicating the Haste value was <= 90/1024. Jet Stream should have been a 21 second recast if the Haste value was 89/1024, but it was a 20 second recast. Thus the haste value is 90/1024. --Byrthnoth (talk) 05:49, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

With March +1 I again ballparked it to 137~142/1024 using Klimaform.

  • Combining Victory March +0 (96/1024) with Honor March +1 and using Foot Kick (6.5s base recast) yielded a recast of 5 seconds, indicating the haste is 137~140/1024.
  • Screwdriver (14s base recast) with Advancing March +1 (80/1024) and Honor March +1 had an 11 second recast, so Honor March +1's potency is 137~138/1024.
  • Sickle Slash (20.25s base recast) with Advancing March +4 (128/1024) and Honor March +1 had a 14 second recast, indicating that Honor March +1's potency is 138/1024.

So, Honor March +1's Haste is 138/1024, gaining 48/1024 from March +1. This is equivalent to the boost Victory/Advancing get from March +3 (16*3). --Byrthnoth (talk) 06:13, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Duration (with the 1200 JP +5% duration gift) was 187 seconds with Marsyas (+50% duration), which more or less matches what you'd expect for a 120 second base song. March+1 increased that to 198 seconds, which perfectly matches the predicted +65% duration. So Honor march has a normal duration and is affected normally (duration-wise) by March+.--Byrthnoth (talk) 06:26, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Post-update testing

When SE converted Song+1 to be +10% potency, I re-tested Honor March.

  • Cure II with Hastega (153/1024 haste) and Honor March +0 gave a 4 second recast, so its haste value is at at most 126/1024
  • Klimaform with Honor March +0 gave a 157 second recast, so its haste value is at least 126/1024

So the Haste value of honor march +0 is 126/1024.

  • Bludgeon with Honor March +4 and Hastega (the blood pact) has a 7 second recast, so Honor March +4 is at least 174/1024 Haste
  • Curaga II with Haste and Honor March +4 has a 7 second recast, so Honor March +4 is at most 174/1024 Haste --Byrthnoth (talk) 14:34, 3 April 2017 (EDT)