User talk:Modranto

Hello, and welcome to the wiki. Thank you for your contributions.

Perhaps we can organize this mess of a pDIF page to read better? Any suggestions? --Spicyryan (talk) 19:58, 24 September 2018 (EDT)

I agree, it's still a mess. The table at the top isn't very helpful since no one will know what a Pre-randomizer is without reading the full article. I'd probably combine the "Attack/Defense Ratio" and "Level Correction Function (cRatio)" sections into one since all types of pDIF have to go through those. Just give them a 1. and 2. like wRatio and qRatio have. Also add to the start to Level Correction Function (cRatio) something along the lines "Skip this if you are in Reisenjima, Escha, Legion or Adoulin zones." It'd be handy to also note than the next step after cRatio splits between Melee and Ranged.

I thought about adding an explanation to why the effective caps listed in "Attack/Defense Ratio" are those numbers, but wasn't sure how to word it since it requires knowledge of qRatio.

There's other tabbing issues that could be cleaned up, like under the wRatio section. --Modranto (talk) 20:30, 24 September 2018 (EDT)

Hmm, okay, I will look into it tomorrow; feel free to tinker with it in the meantime. I have avoided touching this page because- math. --Spicyryan (talk) 22:14, 24 September 2018 (EDT)

Understandable. I didn't make the change I made until I had asked about it on the FFXIAH forum. I could take a crack at it too, but probably not for a couple days. I've been updating some DPS spreadsheets, hence learning this pDIF stuff, and would like to finish that first. I do feel like I understand the math now so at the very least I can double check that side of any changes you might make. --Modranto (talk) 05:16, 25 September 2018 (EDT)

Which sheets are that out of date that the pDIFs are wrong still? --Spicyryan (talk) 08:37, 25 September 2018 (EDT)

Of the jobs I'm working on, FFXIAH's "Currently Maintained DPS Spreadsheets" stickied topic doesn't have anything for WAR, RUN, PLD and WHM. It has DNC but that wasn't updated for pDIF at all. It also has THF but that was updated incorrectly. I have an up-to-date RUN one, but I don't remember where I got that. It wasn't from Motenten's G-Drive. MNK is the only other one on that list that I've looked at, and Byrth largely did a great job updating that. All the SSs I've mentioned had old BRD song values, among other things, that I've been working on as well. --Modranto (talk) 18:08, 25 September 2018 (EDT)

I use the THF one with minor changes to it (such as the fact potency for Vajra's Mandalic was wrong, etc). Let me know how that goes, so I can make sure things are more accurate in the THF guide here. I have noticed numbers seem to unrealistically sink into a ditch for THF when I put in a mob like WoC into the sheet as well, so I suspect something else is wrong.

The RUN sheet which I have is old with new gear added. Not worried about bard songs or rolls personally as that shouldn't change the overall result. I just adjust the mob's defense to 0% down, ~40% down, and 99% down while capping accuracy. --Spicyryan (talk) 09:26, 26 September 2018 (EDT)